回顾 | 首届厦门人居设计生活节开幕仪式暨国际人居空间发展论坛

全球性的专业石材展会,第二十一届中国厦门国际石材展览会于5月18日-21日在厦门国际会展中心盛大启航。由中国厦门国际石材展览会、中国厦门国际卫厨产业展览会、国际人居空间设计协会联合主办的首届厦门人居设计生活节同期开幕。

首届厦门人居设计生活节通过产学研全方位角度将石材与设计精准连接,携手设计行业多位一线大咖,以展览、论坛、产业游学三大板块联袂呈现,旨在构建人居美好生活新时代,探索更多美好生活空间的可能性。

5月18日,首届厦门人居设计生活节在厦门国际会展中心·A1厅展示区隆重启幕,厦门会展金泓信展览有限公司副董事长赖国香先生、陈方晓设计师事务所(CDI)创作总监陈方晓先生、RWD黄志达设计创始人/董事长黄志达先生、著名家具设计品牌DOMO nature创始人赖亚楠女士、GID格瑞龙国际设计有限公司创始人/董事曾建龙先生、鼎合建筑装饰设计工程有限公司首席设计总监孙华峰先生、厐喜设计顾问有限公司创始人/设计总监厐喜先生、深圳市盘石室内设计有限公司董事长/创始人吴文粒先生、IHIDA国际人居空间设计协会秘书长孙文松先生出席了本次开幕仪式。

作为首届厦门人居设计生活节的重磅好戏,国际人居空间发展论坛(一)【定义生活·创想石代】在5月18日正式开启,当天,黄志达先生和孟也先生不仅带来了设计主题分享,同时与石材行业的领军人物英良集团董事长刘良先生、材料美学馆联合创始人宋晓杰先生、江苏百石通石材科技有限公司总经理刘涛先生及特邀主持人IHIDA国际人居设计协会秘书长孙文松先生就设计及石材企业的未来发展趋势展开对话互动,为现场的观众们带来一场跨界的思想盛宴。

Meng Ye
孟 也

“什么是好的设计,好的设计应该是有情调的设计,这是我们记忆里愿意留住的东西。不论你的设计有多昂贵,多廉价,如果你可以解决情调的问题,你就是一个高手。设计我们走到现在,我们拼形式主义,风格主义,我们拼的可能是好看的、高端的、艺术的等等。但归根结底空间是人在使用,人的使用除了功能上和视觉的满足,还有一个是内心中的情感需要释放,这就是空间中的情调。我们做的住宅更多,我们需要给他们提供生活中的情调,让他们不知不觉中随着你的设定去过有情调有情趣的生活。”

“繁华的设计表象背后,普众的审美令人忧虑,多年来,我们只是为少数审美提供了服务。随着消费升级、制造业升级、消费群体年轻化,中国要有更多我们自己有创造力的有独立思考的设计和产品。”

Ricky Wong
黄志达

“有一句香港话叫做<食过返寻味>,就是我们需要不断的回忆,不断地检讨,不断地追逐,只有当你不断思考的时候,你才能更好的向前。

我自幼在街头巷里长大,以往的风土人情依旧历历在目,旧时的点点滴滴依然影响着现在生活的每个瞬间。寻味,是一种吃的感觉,生活的感觉,是每一个瞬间。我很热衷探寻每一个真切细小的角落。幸福,就是通过这些小事物去折射和体现出来的。

“现在的时代很快,生活的节奏也很快,很多东西变成了各种形式主义,越来越多的事物变得便捷而没有思考,我们的思想消失了。所以,我今天做的并不是一个多美多得体的空间,更多的是我想做一个艺术的装置,我希望可以去运用一些旧的元素,一些被我们毁坏的东西,新旧的对比,去唤起大家旧时的回忆及思考。”

Dialogue
对话环节

主持人:石材企业和设计师之间的联系并不密切,但英良石材是石材企业的例外,英良企业和设计师渠道的联系一直都很紧密,在您看来,英良走的是怎样的道路?

刘良先生:石材是一个很特别的产业,由于石材本身的特性,它也决定了我们和设计师打交道的方式也不太一样,在过去的20多年里,我们石材企业做的是TO B的工作,确切的说就是工装,工装就是设计师和业主打交道,石材可以干的事,设计师已经干完了,而我们能做的是裁缝。所以,确切的说,我们和设计师打交道的不多,这些关系也并不紧凑。

但是这些年来,TO B变成了高度竞拥的红海,所以我们或者说所有石材人想做的一件事是把我们的石头带进千家万户,这是一个很艰辛的任务。所以我们只能通过设计师,让更多的业主了解石材的故事,不是石材产业没有品牌,在过去的20多年里,我们做的是流通品牌,我们并没有把石材当成一个消费品牌来直接面对消费者。如果说石材要升级,要活下去,必须和设计师发生关系,在过去几年里,这是我深刻认识的一个事情,这也是我们过去致力做的一个事情,两条腿走路。

主持人:我相信刚刚刘董讲出了很多石材人的心声,刘董一直在强调要和设计师发生关系,那么这些关系如何发生,设计师对石材的认知、服务、价格等信息,设计师想要和石材产业有什么样的互动?设计师对石材企业究竟是怎么看的?我想请孟也老师来讲一讲。

孟也先生:从明面上来说,设计师需要的石材企业的是服务流程、收费这些需求,但从我的角度来说,设计师需要石材的需求是一种质感,空间质感。这个东西可以从两个角度去看,空间质感可能是引领潮流,引领设计,或者说为设计增添更多的可能性,在这种空间质感上,石头可以为我们带来什么?石材的纹理,石材的呈现效果?

另一方面,我觉得石材的服务是最重要的,从原板、切板、到后面拼装服务,设计师需要的最终效果能不能兑现,在设计的方面,双方需要去建立一个共通的逻辑,从设计的分解、深化、落地最终石材最终呈现效果。这是我所理解的。

主持人:据我所知,黄志达老师做项目很多都有石材的运用,那么我想问一下黄志达老师在做这些项目的时候,怎么去解决设计与石材的这些关系?

黄志达先生:其实刚刚讲的,设计师与材料是鱼和水的关系。设计师需要了解不同材料的特性与参数,如何将材料运用在空间中,放在合适的地方。我觉得这两者,设计师与材料,没有前与后的关系,也不是说被动与主动的关系,而是一种伙伴的关系。

我们作为彼此的伙伴,就应该彼此了解,取长补短,从而在这个过程中去实现相互推动。我喜欢在项目中用石材,是基于对于石材的了解,而石材可以给到我的,也是其他材料无法给到的。

主持人:宋总,我知道您有一个材料美学馆,所以您的材料美学馆是只有石材吗?

宋晓杰先生:我们是设计师一站式石材品类中心,现在主运营是在上海,展馆大概有8000平米。石材是主要的品类,但其他材料品类我们也都有,我们把建筑用材分为36档材料。我们主要是做设计师用材,因为我们发现设计师有一个痛点和难点,设计师的时间很宝贵也很缺。

但是材料分布在不同的地方,他今天看石材得去厦门,明天可能看陶瓷得去东莞,时间被分割成碎片,所以我们做了一个这样的中心,希望通过分享知识,分享材料,为设计师提供一站式的材料服务。

主持人:最后,我想问一下涛总,在当前后疫情时代石材市场应该如何实现转换呢?

刘涛先生:我们主要的定位是服务于奢侈品店,在目前的情况下,是属于机遇和挑战并存的。首先,两年的疫情期间确实给品牌店带来了很大的影响,第一个是造成单店的造价下降,对成本有很多控制。另外,由于低碳环保和社会责任的重视,他们希望在亚太地区多使用中国和亚洲的材料替代,同时也降低造价。

我们根据这些形势的变化,也采取了一些措施。首先是能够去吸引战略性客户,因为原本没有这个机会,现在他们的工程和采购人员都在国外,可以和我们在线上进行交流。我们过去10年为实体店铺提供服务,其中前8年,我们只能做到了3家直接跟品牌方合作,现在不到两年时间里,我们有了6家战略合作,通过数量来换取利润率。另外,我们非常认真配合国外关于低碳环保做国内寻求大理石和石灰石产品,在无形中我们在企业竞争,同行竞争中以及国际市场中领先一步。

5月19日,国际人居空间发展论坛(二)【定义生活·创想石代在厦门国际会展中心·A1厅持续展开。论坛二围绕着设计在未来中还可以从哪些方面去影响和塑造人们的生活进行探讨,无论是石材/厨卫企业,还是设计师,都是亲历者也是设计者,对此,万格丽总经理马文瑞先生、厦门大白科技有限公司董事长尹艳梅女士、IHIDA国际人居设计协会秘书长孙文松先生分享了彼此面对生活的一些感悟与思考,同时,更有厐喜先生和梁志天先生带来精彩的设计主题演讲。

Pang Xi
厐 喜

“‘赋格’是盛行于巴洛克时期的一种复调音乐体裁,意为追逐、遁走。借巴洛克复调音乐概念,象征在传统和现代之间追遁冒险。在空间设计领域,主要体现了一种人文情怀。将自己对古今文化的思想,融入现代设计中,赋予空间新的格调。”

正如书法中的“古不乖时,今不同弊”,我们要继承古代经典,但又不能完全脱离时代,应在沿袭中有所创新,在继承中有所发展。古今是时间性的东西,艺术和时间没有必然的联系,它不受时间的左右。从古至今,我们在追求美好的生活的脚步从未停歇过。科技在进步,文化在融合,纵然空间有界,古今艺术依旧无限。

Steve Leung
梁志天

“我是一个简约的设计师,有人也说过我的项目风格是简约,但是我在考虑设计的时候从来都不是从风格出发,不会为设计而设计,而是理性分析,做到“以人为本”的设计。我一直以来的信念,无论是设计还是生活,都是以恰到好处为做事原则。”

“当我开始更好接触中国文化,我发现这种想法跟中国传统哲学所说的中庸之道这个概念很相似。那么什么是中庸呢?自古不同学者对中庸之道都有不同解说,而一般都认为宋代朱熹的理解较为贴切,他说‘中者,不偏不倚、无过不及之名。庸,平常也’“中庸”是“中和恒常”的意思,也就是适度、合乎中道的方法,所以中庸之道的核心理念就是正好合适,不多不少。在我看来,设计也是一种媒介,一种反映中国文化与生活的媒介。”

Dialogue
对话环节

主持人:我们经常说设计改变生活,设计创造价值,设计促进产业升级等等,设计与我们的生活息息相关,当我们面对突发环境转变的时候(如疫情),设计是否可以改善或者帮助人们摆脱环境的局限,降低影响?

尹艳梅女士:很高兴今天能和大家讨论这个话题,如果没有疫情影响,现在越来越多的用户把社交空间移到公共空间去,而非是呆在家里。这也是现在许多设计师关注的,我们怎么把城市的交流空间做好。但是,疫情出现了。

所以反过来,我们要思考,现在居住空间如此有限,我们如何在这么小的空间里面让家庭关系更和谐,甚至面对面长达几个月的时间里面,开心去度过。所以,我觉得我们不仅要考虑大环境中的设计,更多也应该考虑一些家居产品、一些细微的设计。

主持人:今天我们的嘉宾马文瑞先生是在厨卫领域的,现在国内大部分厨卫的销售大多在于与竞品之间的竞争,那在公司产品的销售上,有和设计师渠道在合作吗?

马文瑞先生:在后疫情时代,刚刚我们也讲了很多,关于产品,关于设计。因为疫情,我们追求更加便捷,更加合适的自己的产品,这个对我们来说是挑战,因为市场有需要,我们需要研发更适合消费者的产品,但挑战的同时也带给我们新的机遇。在设计师渠道方面,我们公司正处于刚刚起步的阶段。

主持人:厐喜老师,在您的项目中如果选择厨卫产品,您会选择国内品牌和国外品牌?

厐喜先生:我会优先推荐一些好看的品牌,然后根据甲方的造价来进行选择,而不是固定选哪个品牌。同时,在项目上我们一定会去引导客户去做选择,因为我们对审美还是会一定的追求,并且这个产品和我们的项目节奏是否是一致的,这是我们考虑的一个因素。所以刚刚也说,设计师和甲方之间的交流是非常重要的,你一定要清楚地了解你的甲方需要的是什么。

后疫情时代,大环境下的经济结构悄然转型。同时,随着技术发展,消费群体变化、产业升级等诸多外部因素,给石材企业、设计师群体及整个行业的所有服务者带来前所未有的挑战与机遇。国际人居空间发展论坛【定义生活·创想石代】圆满落下帷幕,更希望借此能带给相关企业及从业者面对未来发展的启示与力量,寻求新的突破和机遇。

Review | First Edition of Development Forum of International Habitat Interior Design

Xiamen Habitat Design and Life Festival (HDLF), co-organized by Xiamen Stone Fair, Xiamen Bath & Kitchen Fair and International Habitat Interior Design Association (IHIDA) made its debut at Xiamen Stone Fair 2021 on May 18-21 in Xiamen International Conference and Exhibition Center.

Xiamen Habitat Design and Life Festival was launched to connect stone and design through a comprehensive perspective of production, education and research. It contained three parts: Habitat Interior Design Exhibition, Development Forum of International Habitat Interior Design and Study Tour, aiming to build a better life and explore more possibilities of living spaces.

The first edition of HDLF held its opening ceremony in Hall A1, XICEC on May 18. Mr. Lai Guoxiang, vice president of Xiamen Jinhongxin Exhibition Co., Ltd., Mr. Chen Fangxiao, creative director of CDI, Mr. Ricky Wong, founder/president of RWD, Ms. Lai Yanan, founder of famous furniture design brand, DOMO nature, Mr. Gary Zeng, founder/director of GID, Mr. Sun Huafeng, chief design director of Dinghe Design, Mr. Pang Xi, founder/design director of PXD, Mr. Wu Wenli, president/founder of Shenzhen Huge Rock Design, Mr. Sun Wensong, secretary general of IHIDA attended the opening ceremony.

As a highlight of HDLF, the Development Forum of International Habitat Interior Design, themed with “Define Lifestyle with Stone”, held Forum One on May 18. Mr. Ricky Wong and Mr. Meng Ye were keynote speakers, not only delivering speeches about design , but also having dialogue with leading stone industry figures, including Mr. Liu Liang, president of Yingliang Group, Mr. Song Xiaojie, co-founder of Material Art Museum, Mr. Liu Tao, general manger of Jiangsu Bestone Technology Co., Ltd. and Mr. Sun Wensong, secretary general of IHIDA. They exchanged views on the future trend of the connection between design and stone industry.

Meng Ye
孟 也

“What is good design? Good design should concentrate more on emotional appeals which people are willing to keep in memories. No matter how expensive or cheap your design is, if you can solve the problem of emotional appeals, you are a master. Nowadays, we talk about formalism, style-ism, yet it may refer to the characteristic of good-looking, high-end, artistic and so on. But basically, space is used by people. In addition to functional and visual satisfaction, there is also a need to release the emotions. That is what we said emotional appeals in the space. We designed more house projects, and we needed to provide them with the sentiment in life, so that they can unknowingly follow your setting to live a sentimental and interesting life.”

“Behind the prosperity of design industry, the public aesthetic is worrying. For many years, we have only provided services for a few specific aesthetics. With the upgrading of consumption and manufacturing, as well as the younger generation becoming major consumer group, it is necessary for China to have more designs and products with our own creative and independent thinking.”

Ricky Wong
黄志达

“There is a phrase in Hong Kong, ‘it is so delicious that leaves a rich aftertaste’, that is, we need to constantly reminisce, review and pursue. Only when you keep thinking that you can move forward better.

I grew up in the streets and alleys where the local customs of the past are still vivid, and the bits and pieces of the old days still affect every moment of my life now. Seeking taste is the feeling of eating and of life. I am keen to explore every little things and tiny corners. It is the small things that reflect and manifest the happiness."

“The era we live now is ever-evolving and the pace of life is fast as well. Many things have become superficial and ‘convenient’, yet without letting us think deeply. Our thoughts seemed to disappear. Therefore, what I am presenting today is not a beautiful and decent space, but an artistic installation. I hope to use some old elements, something that has been destroyed by us, and make contrast between new and old to arouse everyone's memories and thoughts from the past.”

Dialogue
对话环节

Host: The relationship between stone companies and designers is not close, but the connection between Yingliang Group and designers has always been very close. In your opinion, what kind of path is Yingliang Group taking?

Liu Liang: Stone industry is special that due to the characteristics of stone itself, it determines the way we make contact with designers which is quite different with other industries. In the past 20 years, stone companies focused more on the business mode of “TO B”. Precisely, it was usually seen in decoration project. Designers have done the contact with the owner that the only thing stone companies could do is tailoring. So, actually, we didn't directly contact with designers much, therefore the relationships are not close.

But over the years, “TO B” mode has become a highly-competitive market, so one thing we or all stone people want to do is to bring our stones to thousands of households. This is a very difficult task. Therefore, we can only let more owners understand the story of stone through designers. It is not that the stone industry has no brand. In the past 20 years, what we have been doing is a circulation brand. We did not directly made stone as a consumer brand to consumers. If the stone is to be upgraded and to survive, we must deepen our connection with designers. In the past few years, this is something I have deeply understood, and this is also something we have been committed to doing in the past, step by step.

Host: I believe that Mr. Liu has just expressed the voice of many stone people. Mr. Liu has been emphasizing the need to connect with designers. Then how to make connections? How designers can know the knowledge of stone, services, prices and other information? What kind of interaction with the stone industry do designers want? And what do designers think of stone companies? Shall we have Mr. Meng Ye to share your views.

Meng Ye:  Generally, what designers need for the stone company is the service process and the prices, but from my point of view, the designers’ need for the stone is a sense of texture, a sense of space. It can be viewed from two perspectives. The spatial texture may lead the trend, lead the design, or add more possibilities to the design. In this spatial texture, what can stones bring to us? The texture of stone or the effect that stone presents?

On the other hand, I think the service of stone is the most important, from raw blocks, slates cutting, to installation service. Whether the final effect will meet the demands or not requires a common logic on design between stone companies and designers, thereby complete an ideal project through decomposition, deepening and implementation of design. That's what I understand.

Host: As far as I know, Mr. Ricky Wong has applied stone materials in many projects. I am wondering how to figure out the connection between design and stone when you were doing those projects.

Ricky Wong:  As mentioned before by other guests, designer and material is inseparable. Every designer has to understand the characteristics and parameters of each kind of material, then apply the material in the space appropriately. In my opinion, the relationship between designer and material is not about passive or active, but is more like a partnership relationship.

As partners, we should understand each other and learn from each other’s strengths so as to promote the progress of a project. I like to use stone in projects because it is on the basis of my understanding of stone. And stone is more unique to me than other materials.

Host: I know Mr. Song owns a Material Art Museum. Is there only stone in your Material Art Museum?

Song Xiaojie:  The Material Art Museum is a one-stop stone center for designers. Now our main operation is in Shanghai, with an exhibition hall of about 8,000 square meters. Stone is the main category, but there are also other materials. We divide building materials into 36 categories. The Material Art Museum mainly provides materials for designers, because we found that designers are usually lack of time.

However, materials are distributed in different places. They have to look for stone in Xiamen for one day, and may have to find ceramics in Dongguan for another day. It costs more time in looking for materials. Therefore, we established such a center, hoping to provide a one-stop service for designers through sharing materials and knowledges.

Host: Finally, I would like to ask Mr. Liu about how can stone market be transformed in the post-pandemic era?

Liu Tao: Our main positioning is to serve luxury stores. It is both opportunities and challenges under such circumstances. The pandemic did have a great impact on brand stores. First, the cost of a single store has been reduced and controlled. In addition, due to more attentions on low-carbon environmental protection and social responsibility, they hope to use more materials from China and Asia in the Asia-Pacific region to reduce the cost.

In response to these changes, we have taken some measures. First is to attract strategic customers, because they didn't have the opportunity, and now their engineering and procurement people are abroad and can communicate with us online. In the past 10 years, we have provided services for physical stores. In the first 8 years, we could only achieve 3 direct cooperation with brand owners. Now, in less than two years, we achieved 6 strategic cooperation. Moreover, we are very cooperative with the requirements of low-carbon environmental protection in foreign countries to look for marble and limestone products in China. As a result, we have become more competitive in this industry.

The Forum Two of Development Forum of International Habitat Interior Design continued on May 19. The second forum focused on the topic of in what aspects can design influence and shape people's life in the future. You are all involved in it no matter you are from stone/kitchen and bathroom enterprises, or designers. Mr. Ma Wenrui, general manager of Vgreen, Ms. Yin Yanmei, president of diib and Mr. Sun Wensong, secretary general of IHIDA shared their feelings and thoughts. Also, Mr. Pang Xi and Mr. Steve Leung gave wonderful keynote speeches.

Pang Xi
厐 喜

“Fugue is a polyphonic music genre prevalent in Baroque period, meaning chase and escape. Through the concept of baroque polyphonic music, it symbolizes the adventure of chasing away between tradition and modernity. In the field of space design, it mainly reflects a kind of humanistic feelings. I integrate my thoughts of ancient and contemporary culture into modern design to give the space a new style.”

We should not only inherit the ancient classics, but also not be out-of-date. We should make innovation and development in inheritance. Art has no inevitable connection with time. It is not influenced by time. Our pursuit of a better life has never stopped in all ages. Science and technology are progressing and different cultures are merging. Although space has boundaries, art is infinite.

Steve Leung
梁志天

“I am a simple designer. Some people also said that my project style is simple. But when I think about design, I never start from style but rational analysis, to achieve “people-oriented” design. I have always believed in doing things just right in design and life.”

“As I became more exposed to Chinese culture, I found that this idea was very similar to the concept of The Doctrine of the Mean (Zhong Yong) in traditional Chinese philosophy. There were different scholars having different interpretations of The Doctrine of the Mean in all ages. It is widely acknowledged that the scholar in Song Dynasty, Zhu Xi's understanding of it is more appropriate. He interpreted The Doctrine of the Mean as: bent neither one way or another and unchanging. That is a state of moderation, rectitude, objectivity and constant equilibrium. Therefore, the core concept is just right, neither more nor less. In my opinion, design is also a medium that reflects Chinese culture and life.”

Dialogue
对话环节

Host: We often say that design changes life, creates value and promotes industrial upgrading. Design is closely related to our lives. When we face sudden environmental changes (such as the pandemic), can design improve or help people get rid of the limitations of the environment and reduce the impact?

Yin Yanmei:  It is a great pleasure to discuss this topic with you today. If not affected by the pandemic, more and more people tend to move their social spaces to public spaces instead of merely staying at home. This is also what many designers are concerned about, how to make the urban communication space better. However, then came the pandemic.

As a result, we, instead, must think about how we can make family relationships more harmonious in such a small space, and how to face the situation in a happy and positive way for months. So, I think we should not only consider the design in an overall environment, but also consider some household products, some subtle design.

Host: Our guest Mr. Ma Wenrui is in the kitchen and bathroom field. Now most of the sales of kitchen and bathroom products in China mainly lie in the competition with rival products. In terms of the sales of your company's products, is there any cooperation with designers?

Ma Wenrui:  As we mentioned a lot about products and design under such post-pandemic era. Because of the pandemic, customers are pursuing more convenient and suitable products, which is a challenge for us. To meet the market demand, we need to develop products more suitable for consumers. But challenges also bring us new opportunities. In terms of the cooperation with designers, our company is just at the beginning stage.

Host: Mr. Pang Xi, if you apply kitchen and bathroom products in your projects, will you choose domestic brands or foreign brands?

Pang Xi:  For me, I will firstly recommend some good-looking brands, and then choose products according to the cost requirement of my client, rather than using products from a specific brand. Moreover, in terms of the project, we will guide customers to make choices by themselves, and will consider it as a major factor whether this product is consistent with the project. Therefore, the communication between the designer and the client is very important. You must have a clear understanding of what your client needs.

In the post-epidemic era, the economic structure has been transformed. Also, with the development of technology, changing of consumer group, industrial upgrading and many other external factors, there are unprecedented challenges and opportunities to stone companies, designers and the entire industry. The Development Forum of International Habitat Interior Design successfully concluded. We hope you who have been working in this industry would get inspired and regain power in this event, and thereby seek breakthroughs and opportunities further.